Well, the first thing you discovered…. quoting you:

With an unemployment rate of 4.3% we have topics like that. Is your mind blown yet?

….is that the way the government counts unemployment is bullshit. If you get a job working five hours at minimum wage at McD, you are now, according to the way they count, just as “employed” as Jeff Bezos is.

The statistic does not distinguish between hours worked or wage. Which is why people who know how to read the data are not happy with the so-called jobs “recovery” that some say we’ve had since the meltdown.

Further, the rate is a ratio between “people who are employed” and “the people who are looking for jobs”. The latter is calculated by ANOTHER entirely subjective government poll. That’s why you can have a month where “the economy added 100k jobs” AND “the unemployment rate got worse.”

Nice, eh? Shadowstats tries to estimate the real unemployment rate if the government felt like doing it in a responsible manner:

Wild stuff, eh? The government says 4 point something, the U-6 (which is marginally more honest) says 9 point something, and the shadowstats metric says unemployment should be about 22.5%. That backs up your view that despite the 4 point something, there are a lot more unemployed people out there than the government wants to admit.

We aren’t getting hired, and aren’t being paid well, because of unconscious biases. Or very clearly conscious biases, might I add.

I can’t speak to your situation, I can only speak to mine. Mine is that I’ve spent some years not in HR, but as a direct-line hiring manager, looking for people to fill technical consulting jobs. I place openings online, people respond. Typically, about 4–6% of the responses are from women. So, it’s not surprising to note that that about 4–6% of the hirees are women, in this role, across my company. That’s not bias, it’s arithmetic.

Many dudes negotiate at the start of it all. Many white dudes are seen as assertive when they negotiate. Me, specifically, as a woman? Shrill and difficult. And then I don’t get the job. So I accept the low-ball salary.

I’ve personally never seen much of a difference between male and female applicants in this regard. If an applicant tells me during the interview process that they have certain salary goals they expect to meet, they don’t get another interview. It’s not the right time to negotiate when I’m still trying to figure out if you’re worth a damn or not.

My $.02.

Data Driven Econophile. Muslim, USA born. Been “woke” 2x: 1st, when I realized the world isn’t fair; 2nd, when I realized the “woke” people are full of shit.

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