What they see is people who believe that Americans should be treated equally and fairly without regard for color.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! LOL ROFL!

Well, that’s a persuasive refutation. :-) Especially in light of the fact that I provided data to back up my position, which I’ll repost, just so everyone knows that you’re laughing at real data that upsets a favorite lefty shibboleth, not just an opinion:

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You are right. However, government-run health services cost around half what ours costs.

Not sure if it’s half (the % of GDP figures that are so often quoted don’t work in that equation) but most of the savings that would be realized would be realized by cutting wages to the health care professionals by a third to a half. You lose quality if you do that, which I find unsatisfactory.

Europeans have better quality of life and live longer than Americans. I don’t see a downside.

Well, although I’ve lived in Europe and have relatives in several countries and enjoy their lifestyle, I must point out that all “life quality” measurements are subjective. And “live longer” is a statistical anomaly created by the fact that we still have 10% of our population uncovered by health insurance, which drags down averages. If you have coverage, you live as long, or longer, than the Euros.

Today, the average Medicare premium is about $112. The average Social Security check is around $1,100. Following your suggestion Medicare premiums would be more than the recipient’s income.

That is correct.

You have just illustrated why we need single payer health care.

Well, we never will have single payer here, hopefully. There’s a reason why most developed nations have chosen universal coverage models that are *not* single payer, and why single payer would simply not work well here.

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Data Driven Econophile. Muslim, USA born. Been “woke” 2x: 1st, when I realized the world isn’t fair; 2nd, when I realized the “woke” people are full of shit.

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