I posted this a few days ago in response to someone with opposite opinions from you on the (D) side (a Clintonista) who promptly tried to bury her fangs into my leg (she chipped a tooth). However, you make me think of it whenever you post on this topic.

If you use the worldwide definitions of right/left/authoritarian/libertarian (not the tiny, constrained US-only definitions) these are the philosophical choices our election left us in 2016. (Since Sanders lines up in the green quadrant with Stein, it makes his facilitation of Clinton even more bewildering, but let’s not digress):

2016 Election quadrant, politicalcompass.org

And.lest you believe that Hilary was a outlier for Democrat candidates… she wasn’t:

2012 Election quadrant, politicalcompass.org

Although the organization did pick up the shift of Obama from 2008 to 2012:

2008 Election quadrant, poiticalcompass.org

Point? Call them the Establishment, Neocons, or Deep State, or whatever…..that blue, authoritarian-rightist quadrant is exactly where “they” want us, and where “they” (the Establishment politicians, along with their mouthpieces in the media, entertainment, and education industries) make sure all the “approved” candidates end up.

You can’t get into the green quadrant unless you’re a European social democrat, to some extent. You can’t get into the red quadrant unless you believe in the public ownership of production, to some extent. And you can’t get into the purple quadrant unless you believe that the power of the federal government should be markedly decreased (I don’t mean “block grants”, I mean actual shutdown of major federal agencies and those powers distributed to the states) along with lower federal taxes with higher state taxes to compensate, to some extent. (That’s why Ron Paul hugs the line; the only federal power that he wanted to destroy was the Fed, along with elements of certain agencies that don’t do much, anyway. He wasn’t an ideological libertarian by any stretch.)

Candidates with ideas that land them in those quadrants aren’t debated; they are simply mocked. And although I totally disagree with green and red quadrant politicians (put me in the purple quadrant, on about the same Y value as Ron Paul, but on an X maybe only one or two grid lines to the left of the green quadrant) I think our politics is much weaker for not having those ideas actively debated.

Data Driven Econophile. Muslim, USA born. Been “woke” 2x: 1st, when I realized the world isn’t fair; 2nd, when I realized the “woke” people are full of shit.

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