The KKK-racist-white supremacist, etc. say they want to kill people and actually do. That’s the speech they want to be “free.” Those are the “ideas” the Antifa are so rude about.

I haven’t heard any of the current crop of supremacists talking about “killing people.” This bunch is not the same bunch from the 60’s. They tend to sound less white “supremacist” and more white “nationalist”, meaning that their goal tends to be separation, not genocide.

Communism, anti-capitalism and anarchism are all toothless tigers. This country is in no danger of becoming communist or even anti-capitalist. If we even get unions back it will be a bleeding miracle.

And there is where we disagree. White supremacy is a noxious philosophy that cannot be painted as desirable to any thinking person. That’s why Spencer gets the same 200-odd misfits at his little racist convention every year, and that hasn’t changed much over the 15 years he’s been holding his meeting.

OTOH, communism can be presented as a desirable and reasonable solution to inequality; that’s why very smart people like Roger Nash Baldwin and Angela Davis became communists, because they saw it as the only path to equality.

Further, from an economic standpoint, it can be implemented using the “boil the lobster” approach. Regulate businesses. Demonize them. Increase the size of social services. Nationalize some social services. Justify more nationalization based on the common good. Take control of the economy. It’s a process that starts out talking about reasonable things, and only becomes unreasonable when you get past the point of no return.

So…… I am far more concerned about a resurgence of communism and anarchy in the US than I am about a few losers strutting around with confederate flags.

Calling a civil rights activist a “communist” in order to discredit them is not a new tactic. It has always transparently been used to shield terrorists and killers and to demonize the people who oppose them.


  1. A civil rights activist may very well BE a communist. Communism’s core value proposition, after all, is equality between economic classes, which in the US track to race, to a large extent. Again, Baldwin and Davis.
  2. Reality is that Antifa are not civil rights activists by their own definition, and they are violent by definition, so your attempt at moral equivocation in this situation is nothing more than cheap sophistry.
  3. The worst sophistry, of course, is inferring that the rejection of Antifa implies support for the supremacists.

It only works on people who don’t want to look at themselves in the mirror and tell the truth.

My mirror is fine. I am not at all sure about yours. You seem willing to dance with the devil, as long as the devil’s current objective is the same as yours.

Problem is that once that objective is met, the devil has OTHER objectives……and he’s not going to let you break off the dance when you voice your disagreement.

Data Driven Econophile. Muslim, USA born. Been “woke” 2x: 1st, when I realized the world isn’t fair; 2nd, when I realized the “woke” people are full of shit.