I have always detested this atomized, copy and paste form of response. It gives the appearance of a cogent rebuttal but in truth simply avoids making a coherent argument.

I have to then question your cognitive abilities.

You made the subjective statement “ it’s really a sign of how dire things have become.” I don’t know if you’re referring to the state of our capitalist economy or Trump — — I assume the former — but I disagree that anything is “dire” out there in either category.

Why do I say that? Because to a Boomer, all this social dissension and lack of cogent debate falls into the category of “been there, done that”. If you want to believe “it’s different this time”, that’s your perogative, but brushing aside the rational basis for your counterparty’s position as “apologia” does not serve you well, if your goal is to be seen as a rational participate in a discussion.

The latter was completely unnecessary when it’s established that people simply become more risk averse as they age.

Sure. This is also known as “wisdom” gained through “experience.”

The issue here is that Sanders supporters are no more or less rude than any others, you just have more experience with them because of the positions you take.

Not in my experience, but as we’ve already established, these impressions are anecdotal in nature.

You get three word rebuttals after making long arguments because they have seen and responded to it all before.

Or, the rebutter is a moron, who has no idea how to deal with a rational, well thought out, data-driven argument for conservative economics, because they’ve been misled to believe that all defenders of conservative economics are “sycophants”.

I grew up in the middle of all that and it’s plain to see that your generation has a genius for self-congratulatory mythologizing.


The civil rights movement was of my parents’ generation, basically over by the time you came of age.

This is false for any Boomer over 70, of which there are still some millions around. But the fact remains that all this attention to racism and racial injustice in the US, which was ignored for a hundred years post Emancipation, started in earnest with the Boomer generation.

That is simply a fact of history.

Your generation opposed the Vietnam War entirely because you didn’t want to die in a rice paddy. Perfectly valid but completely unheroic.

Extremely naive commentary. Obviously there was a self-serving component to this, but the net result was the end of conscription by raising awareness of it as a form of involuntary servitude. If the conflict is dire enough, there will be more volunteers than the military can swallow; if the conflict is not dire, then why are we there in the first place?

So, you yourself, who have never been subject to an involuntary draft BECAUSE of Boomer activism on this topic, and thus are a beneficiary of said activism, claim that the movement was entirely self-serving?


That four of you poor darlings got killed doing so pales beside the number of us murdered by the police on a regular basis. Both those murders and the entire Vietnam debacle pale beside the 68,000 who die every year because they can’t afford medical care.

And now we have it. We enter into some sort of odd fantasy where in a Sanders-world, suddenly there would be no police dysfunction, and in Sanders-world, suddenly the [highly debatable] number of medical deaths caused by lack of payment ability (which were promised would go away by the last Dem president) will suddenly disappear, paid for by a few relatively minor tax gimmicks paid for by the upper income class, and of course the total upheaval of the existing system (which does have its warts, to be sure) will not cause any upset whatsoever in our current outcomes or delivery mechanisms.

That you bid it in argument reveals a very great deal about the privileged and ego-centric lens through which you (and often your generation) view events. That you place it within a larger excuse to sabotage younger generations reveals just how much contempt you have for them.

I will say that I have a great deal of contempt for anyone who wishes to turn the economic engine of the US on its ear, trying to sell the idea that it can be all unicorns and rainbows.

You have certainly evolved from your radical youth: your position and arguments are now indistinguishable from those of your parents in that time.

Actually, they are very different, but from your vantage point, I suppose you’d need better historical binoculars to see the difference.


Mabrook means “congratulations”.

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Data Driven Econophile. Muslim, USA born. Been “woke” 2x: 1st, when I realized the world isn’t fair; 2nd, when I realized the “woke” people are full of shit.

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