More obfuscation.

I am answering you honestly. If you choose to see that as obfuscation, that is entirely your affair.

You, I’m not so sure about. I see you making value judgments continually, the first one being the absolute falsehood that “numbers don’t lie.”

Numbers are just math, so attributing truth or falsehood to them indicates a lack of understanding on both their uses and their limitations. Liars do use numbers, however. And liars often omit certain numbers from their calculus in order to do so. One of the best examples is the US “Unemployment Rate”, which tells you next to nothing about unemployment in the US. I suspect you agree with that statement.

But you have this astonishing faith that those who gather the numbers, were told the truth to begin with, and further that they are telling the truth about the numbers they gathered.

Not at all. What you’re doing here is confusing three entirely separate issues. The first is data acquisition, which is fraught with peril, as you say. The second is the math that crunches those numbers. Then there’s a third issue, which is data analysis, where we attempt to draw actionable knowledge from those mathematical results.

The middle section is just math. The first and third are not just math, and require tools from linguistics, psychology, sociology, and economics (none of which are hard sciences) in order to be effective.

Everybody has an agenda. Everybody plays the angles. Whether a thing is legal or not, whether a thing threatens the world economy or not, is no measure of whether a thing is right or wrong. You as a woman of faith must certainly grasp this.

Obviously. Legality is a very different thing than morality.

(and BTW, this business of Ireland and Iceland et al, being “destroyed”?

Both required financial bailouts as NATIONS, not just their banks.

Your numbers don’t erase morality or ethics for you, but you wield them as if they mattered more in arriving at truth than your own core beliefs do.

I assure you that you’re reading far more into my posts than I am writing. Again, I can’t prevent you from doing that. But it’s not apropos. In fact, I conciously avoid posts which contain moral or ethical judgements. I am not successful in expunging them from my writing all the time, but I often go back when (and if) I proof, and if I catch myself making a subjective assessment that I cannot wholly back up with an objective citation, I remove it.

Hope that helps.

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Data Driven Econophile. Muslim, USA born. Been “woke” 2x: 1st, when I realized the world isn’t fair; 2nd, when I realized the “woke” people are full of shit.

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