Well on this we most certainly agree. So then as a nation how can we be so deeply entrenched in a partisan fight, where there are such minimal differences between the parties.

Craven desire for power comes to mind.

That’s what Trump is selling now, and totally rational people like you are buying it, but again fallacy.

Not really “buying it” but “seeing it”.

I don’t know how anyone could possibly believe this country is doing okay economically.

Low unemployment, high GDP, return of key manufacturing jobs, increase in wage……..it IS doing OK economically. Better than OK, actually.

Now, yes, it’s a big country. A national statistic is just that: a national statistic. That means that areas like mine (Houston) where you can hardly find a storefront without a help wanted sign, are flying; that doesn’t mean that there aren’t areas which are not doing so well. There’s always regional variance.

I simply do not know. So many parts of the country are in a second and even third world status, like the midwestern City Cleveland, where I’m from.

Sure. I’m originally from Buffalo, and we share that same Rust Belt decades-long malaise. I moved to Texas after college because the economy in Buffalo was shitty; forty years later, nothing’s changed. However, the stats are the stats.

And Trump claims he’s stopping this from happening- he’s not. And I’m sure the argument could be that he shouldn’t. I went to GMUs school of law and economics, where we extensively studied the coase theory — in The absence of transaction costs resources flow to their most highly valued use.

I prefer to state that as “capital flows to where it can be used most efficiently.” And that remains true. NY and OH are union states, and if I can build a widget in Texas for less, I do. That’s why Texas got a big Caterpillar plant a few years ago, rather than Cat’s home state (Illinois).

What the Trump corporate tax revamp does is lessen the incentives for corporations to flow that capital overseas, which was an unintended consequence of our former tax system AND the corporate friendly trade deals like NAFTA.

That’s all good.

When you actually delve into the specifics, it seems pretty hopeless for most Americans all the way round.

Well, LONG TERM, yes, you’re right. Automation, AI, robotics…..those are NOT artificial trends that cannot be reversed. And at some point (not today) they create a problem that we have to deal with: that the workers at the low end of the value chain are going to get replaced by some sort of technology that works 24x7 and doesn’t have to get paid. But we’re not there yet; we’ll be there when the LOW end of the job spectrum starts to get hollowed out. It’s not, yet.

You’re wrong about Trump who definitely had a certain rhetorical style, that is absolutely brilliant if you want to manipulate people of average intelligence, through emotions. I hate to tell you, but you are not immune to it. Though you can at least be snapped out of the spell, because higher than average intelligence. But his style is Positively brilliant…honed and perfected over time, and put on steroids via use of technology. Trumps people push a button and command millions…all because of that rhetorical style.

I find it interesting that among his critics, Trump can be an idiot of a genius. I keep wanting to say “pick one.”

For the record, I AM immune to it, because I *NEVER* listen to political speeches. I read them, because as a trained speaker myself, I don’t want people fucking with my emotions the way good speakers do.

One thing I will say, though. I’ve heard it say, and I think there’s some truth to it, that among those who support Trump strongly and those who support him less enthusiastically (like moi), that we take what he says seriously but not literally.

And conversely, those who oppose him, they take him literally but not seriously.

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Data Driven Econophile. Muslim, USA born. Been “woke” 2x: 1st, when I realized the world isn’t fair; 2nd, when I realized the “woke” people are full of shit.

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