But Trump’s pile of shit is a thousand times bigger than everybody elses.
That’s what I keep hearing. But I keep hearing it from people who deny that “you can keep your insurance if you like it” was a lie, and who also claim that “regulations don’t hurt the economy” is true.
The problem is that you have liars telling us that Trump is a liar, and ignore the fact that a good deal of what they refer to as “lies” are actually (a) debateable matters, and/or (b) matter of misinformation.
You say “… that reasonable people can disagree on political matters based on different reads of research and fact.” You give pretty exactly the definition of “alternative facts” here.
Let me state my response to that in careful, respectful terms. DON’T FUCKING FEED ME THAT BULLSHIT.
I am speaking of matters which are complicated, and for which reasonable, educated people can disagree. Your silly little example, the “Bowling Green Massacre” is an not even close to what I am speaking about. In such a case, it happened or it didn’t. IOW, “how much gravel will it take to cover my driveway”. Fact or not. Most matter of policy don’t happen that way.
You say “… for pithy economic policy issues….fact checking does not work so very well”. But there are legions of scientists.
Oh, you think economics is a science? How cute.
Econ isn’t a science, dear. The economic results of a policy change depend on a change in behavior of the actors in the economy, which is the realm of psychology. Economics cannot be a “hard science” unless psychology is a “hard science”. Are you sure you want to die on that hill?
I saw the Sessions video. He was asked whether he was in contact with the Russians. He said “no”. So it was a lie!
The liar is you. He was NOT asked if he was in contact with Russians; he proffered the information. So, you are lying that you watched the exchange between he and Franken. Jeff Sessions is a more honest person than you are.
In your Trump-example you say “ That fact is irrelevant because of the phrasing”- Trump phrased it in a way to make people believe the jobs came from him, and that was not the case, and that makes it a lie.
Do you really want me to list all the times that Obama did the same thing with economic data that he had no control over?
A politician getting elected based on myriads of ambiguities is just a monstrous liar.
He’s your president. Learn to deal.