All I’ll say is that a whole lot of the people who were 62 when you were young also believed the same things about the state of racism in the United States back then as you believe about the state of racism today.

And all I’ll say is that that’s totally meaningless. Attitudes about racism are very class- and regionally- based; so what you remember about “people believing” is what you picked up from the .01% of Americans who happened to be your peer group at the time, tempered slightly by what you picked up from the news.

.01% is not a particularly good sample size to be drawing categorical conclusions from. We need data. Here’s some, based on a question which I think very well exposes an overt racist mindset without being sullied by economic views:

Long story short: 1972, 23.4% of Americans said that they would not vote for a black person for President. In 2008, that number dropped to 5.4%. Hence my previous statement that overt racism now sits in or around the 4% mark in the US.

I can’t speak for what other people believe. I can only tell you what the data indicates; and the data indicates that in 2016, there is very little overt racism remaining.

I’m sure many of them also compared these movements to Nazi Germany, just as you make the same reference to the public, legal and political movements occurring around you now.

Shrugs. Doesn’t matter what was said when. What matters is if the analogy is accurate or not. And most certainly, Nazi Germany used social pressure and social shame to get individuals and organizations to comply with desired policy.

Basically, that overt racism was already virtually eradicated and that ending systemic racism was a slow evolutionary process that takes time.

Again, don’t know what “people believed”. I know what the data shows.

I can’t comment on the vast amount of your post, because it relies on subjective sentimentality. Are things different today, based on social attitudes of equality than they were in the 70's? Sure. I’ve proven that with data.

This begs the question: Is the REASON they are better because we have “young people engaged in activism” or because “old attitudes die off”? You’ve obviously chosen the former. I have my doubts, and lean towards the latter. But, as you may have guessed at this point….it’s because of what I see in the DATA:

…..and it appears from the DATA that millennials (I think the Post picked a poor headline for this article) are SLIGHTLY less racist than the previous three “generations” (the biggest percentage decrease in racist attitudes between generations seems to be between the “Silent Generation” and the Boomers) but the change is evolutionary, not striking.

So, here’s where we are. I believe what I believe based on a review of the data, and I choose my positions on situations and policies based on what I see from that data.

You, of course, may choose to believe what you wish.

Data Driven Econophile. Muslim, USA born. Been “woke” 2x: 1st, when I realized the world isn’t fair; 2nd, when I realized the “woke” people are full of shit.

Data Driven Econophile. Muslim, USA born. Been “woke” 2x: 1st, when I realized the world isn’t fair; 2nd, when I realized the “woke” people are full of shit.